Tuesday, November 18, 2014

Time to roll, what the poop??

We've been camping 20 times so far this year since we bought the Rexhall but only for weekends.

We've tried camping with all the connections water, sewer and electric. That's called "Full Hookups"


All set up. Sewer, water and electric.

We've camped with water and electric. That's called "Partial Hookups" and means that the Sewer and Sink drain connections, called Black and Gray Water respectively have to be held in the tanks that are built into the vehicle and they have to be emptied manually. Overfilling the gray water can have water backing up into the shower pan which is not usually a disaster. Overfilling the black tank has sewage overflowing which IS a disaster and a very smelly one! 
To empty the tanks you have 2 choices. You can drive the vehicle to a "Dump Station". Most campgrounds that only have partial hookups have such a station somewhere on the premises. Or some places have what's known as a "Honey Wagon" which is a service that comes by your campsite on request and hooks up your tanks to his big tank and takes away the stuff you don't want to think about! Good thing about the Honey Wagon is you don't have to pull in the awnings, disconnect the electric and water to go to the dump station.

We've also camped without any connections at all. That's called "Dry Camping" or if you are somewhere remote "Boondocking". Variations on the theme are staying overnight at places where it's permitted such as some Walmart locations, Cracker Barrel restaurants, Truck Stops etc. There is a whole subculture of Boondockers with websites and cell phone apps to share good locations. In order to Boondock you have to bring along your own water too and the vehicle is equipped with a fresh water tank. Hopefully the manufacturer calculated the sizes of all the tanks so they last about the same time before filling up. Our rig has 100 gallons of fresh water, 40 gallons of black water and 40 gallons of gray water capacity which is good for about 4 days.
Boondocking in the desert with Toyboxes full of ATV;s etc.


Having said all that and tried them we are happy to camp with whatever is available. If we are going to Boondock though we have to think ahead and fill the fresh water tank before we leave. We don't travel with it full normally because 100 gallons of water weighs 800 lbs (close to 1/2 a ton!) and we don't need to be dragging that up and down hills.

We (For we, read ME) screwed up last weekend. We were staying in a full hookup site but only for 3 days. Generally when you set up for full hookups you connect the sewer hose to the rig and put the other end in the sewer drain. The black water tank valve is left closed so that the tank fills with ... well you know what a sewer tank fills with!! The reason for letting it fill is to keep the solids in suspension in the liquids in the tank. (I bet you just put you breakfast sandwich to one side right?). When the tank is nearing full you open the drain valve and the contents drain out. You can do this as many times as is convenient. The gray tank valve is usually left open, it's just soapy water so it flows right out. The day before you want to leave however it is good practice to close the gray water valve for a day to let that tank fill a little. The reason for this is to use this water to flush the sewer hose before you put everything away. 
In our rig the grey water valve is on the left and the handle is gray.
Note the clear plastic section in the hose so you can tell when the tank is clean after it gets washed,

Now I screwed up because I decided that 3 days wouldn't fill the gray tank so I'd just leave it closed and flush the hose out with a full tank of gray. What I didn't plan on was that the cold water faucet in the bathroom started leaking and a few times we went into the bathroom and found it running slowly. It must have run thru the night a couple of times. When Barbara took a shower on our last day the water backed up into the shower pan. No problem, I pulled the gray valve and it drained right down. What I didn't know was that the water got out of the shower pan under the shower and got into the carpet and backing. A day later it started to smell damp and musty. I learned that lesson, always leave the gray valve open until the day before we leave. I also fixed the faucet and put some spare washers in the parts kit.

UPDATE 6/24/18.
The above is still pretty good looking back on the last 4 years. We've learned to carry 2 lengths of sewer hose as some campgrounds have the connections in weird places. Only once has that not been enough and that was at the big RV rally on Sedalia MO this year. We just dumped when it was time to leave by moving the rig closer to the sewer connection after everyone had left.

The one thing I din't mention here is Bathroom Tissue or Toilet Paper (TP). Because the stuff is going to sit in the tank it's important to get the stuff that dissolves in water. That doesn't mean "Septic Tank Safe" stuff either as we've found some that don't dissolve at all that was marked that way. We buy ours in the RV section at Walmart, it's over in the Automotive aisle. We like the Scott stuff, the Camco brand is too flimsy.

There's an easy way to test it. Just get a container with a couple of inches of tap water in the bottom, drop in a sheet of the TP, put your hand over the top and give it a couple of shakes. 

If it doesn't disintegrate you don't want to put it in your black tank. Doing so will cause a build up of undissolved TP and the other "Solids" that can form what's lovingly called a "Poopsicle" which apart from being nasty to think about can be very difficult to break up and flush out of the tank.

After I've emptied the black tank I use the built in flushing system we have to rinse the tank for a couple of minutes until clear water comes out. DON'T USE YOUR DRINKING WATER HOSE FOR THIS!! USE A GARDEN HOSE

Then I'll close the valve and let the flush run for another minute which puts 5 - 10 gallons of water in the tank. I sometimes drop a laundry detergent pod into the tank via the toilet so that when we drive to the next spot the tank has sloshed all that around and really cleaned the inside of the tank. So much so that the useless level sensors will work again for a short time.

So having spoiled your lunch as well as your breakfast I'll leave.
Brian

4 comments:

  1. ah. . .the lessons we learn.

    My only comment on your blog would be. . .if you could break it down into more paragraphs, or perhaps, use a larger font. . .it is a bit hard to read with everything scrunched together. . .but. . .great story. . .you guys are off to a good start. . .enjoy the journey!

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  2. Thanks Janice, you are the official "First comment!" maybe we should crack a bottle of champagne over the computer screen? I left the font size at the default setting I'll try changing it and see what happens. I'll work on paragraphs too, thanks for that one. I have enough problems with spelling and punctuation but I'm hoping practice will make less imperfect.
    Thanks
    BnB

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